Writing thoughts aka Manda knicked idea from [livejournal.com profile] kirsteena

Jan. 17th, 2010 07:33 pm
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So, [livejournal.com profile] kirsteena and I were talking today about writing and how she was writing an epic story. *g* I've forgot what it was like to just write. Not have a prompt due, not do RP tags, but have an idea for a fic and just write. I used to, back in the day, write 20K and that was my smaller fics. I got out of the habit when I went back into RP and really when I got into prompt writing and everything was around 300-400 words.

I've decided I'm going to get back in that long fic groove again. Every day, I'm going to take an hour and just write. I have the 7 xovers for Buffy, I have AU ideas I want to write up, I have the AU verse with BtVS/Spooks xover. I'm going to challenge myself and not have anything under 1000 words.

Now it's in writing so I have to do it. :P

Date: 2010-01-18 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deensey.livejournal.com
Good for you!

I tend to cap out at about 3000 words, but 500-1500 seems about standard for me. I'm trying to relearn how to write to an outline as well. GRAH.

Date: 2010-01-18 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verdant-gt.livejournal.com
I'm not used to outlining at all. When I started writing I was very free form and went where the story took me with only a vague idea of what I wanted to do. For me, it's hard to get back into that practice of outlining. *g*

Date: 2010-01-18 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deensey.livejournal.com
I don't do outlines and then I just wander too much and lose my purpose. I have to fix that!

Date: 2010-01-18 07:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kirsteena.livejournal.com
This - this I need to relearn how to do.

Date: 2010-01-18 07:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deensey.livejournal.com
We can have classes?

Date: 2010-01-18 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyloran.livejournal.com
Dang. I need to do the same. I have a few original story ideas in addition to fanfics, and at least 2 book ideas nibbling. I had the best intentions of doing this last year, but then 2009 derailed me with several Very Awful Days.

Hopefully 2010 means we can get back into the grove of doing things positive for ourselves (like writing!).

Date: 2010-01-18 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kirsteena.livejournal.com
That's what I'm hoping too!

Date: 2010-01-18 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verdant-gt.livejournal.com
Here's to 2010 being better than 2009. *nod*

I think we all deserve a present for ourselves and doing positive things is perfect for that. :D

Date: 2010-01-19 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rumpelstiltskin.livejournal.com
I've been pretty good about writing up in the 600 to 1000 word at least.

I hope you manage to do it. I wanted to do some short comics for the crossover thing, but then I lost 90% of my will to draw.

It's funny. Sometimes RP can inspire you so hard to write (or draw, in my case). And then sometimes it can just turn around and suck everything out of you. All it takes is one dipshit really.

Date: 2010-01-19 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verdant-gt.livejournal.com
I have inspiration to write, I get ideas but then RP sometimes sucks the creativity.

Not bad but when you get very used to responding to a five word tag in short bursts rather than long wordy responses, it kind of, I don't know, short circuits your brain or something. Like you forget how to be descriptive or what have you and you condense it all down to 300 words for a prompt. *shrug*

It's like I've been subjected to make my writing a cliff notes or Reader's Digest Condensed rather than long drawn out writing with detailed plots and intricate scenery.

Date: 2010-01-19 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kirsteena.livejournal.com
Exactly. That's why I'm enjoying creating AU verses, because you have to be more descriptive.

Nothing against rp, I love it, but I need to learn to write longer stuff as well. Like today, I wrote one scene for apocafic, between Martha and Lucas, and I just revelled in it, just enjoying writing interaction.

Date: 2010-01-19 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verdant-gt.livejournal.com
Exactly! I love RP and it feeds a different part of my creativity but it also has me neglecting my other side. Which is why I'm going to get into both. I don't think I would ever be able to give up RP. *g* It's too addicting.

Date: 2010-01-19 07:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] glazedmacguffin
I usually prefer when people give me lots of information to go off of. I actually hate short tags. They make me lose interest quicker than anything. Like, I want to know maybe what a character is holding or doing, or those neat little tidbits of information that come up. I'll keep that in mind and try to come up with more to give you now.

Sometimes short tagging is better for action type sequences. But I always enjoy the challenge. Even if lately I've been disappointed in everything I crank out.

Date: 2010-01-19 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verdant-gt.livejournal.com
You do a wonderful job with your tagging. It gives me stuff to go off of and I can picture what they are doing and thinking even if it's only OOC for me to see what their internal thoughts are. It helps.

Date: 2010-01-20 02:28 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] glazedmacguffin
I used to round-robin write in high school, so I usually see RP as a way to round robin but you handle certain characters, rather than just throwing down dialogue. Writing down the other characters feelings/thoughts, even if the other player doesn't need to know them, gives them something to go off of to better reply to you. It's not necessarily meta knowledge so much as it's subtly involving each other in your ideas of story as well as acknowledging a random reader/your partner might not know everything about your character. It's an exercise in co-written trust.

When I went to college art/paper writing ate my time. I didn't have a chance to write anything creative and I had been a pretty profuse writer before that. I let my very terribly illiterate ex tell me that my personal writing was clunky though it was miles better than his. And finally I joined my first group RP. Which had mostly short responses, but we would augment our playing with stories that frequently ran into the 20,000 words detailing the pasts of our characters.

But then at the same time, every group RP I've ever been in (save H&M, which I bailed on before drama could really attack) has descended into drama after a couple of years of being really inspirational. And then I experience this crippling creative drought. I'm hoping some new personal life choices avoid this in the future, because I really think you shouldn't RP unless that RP makes you sit there and want to write a story or imagine out a scenario. Like the Rose and Gary Seven stuff? I could totally imagine her going over there in the midst of Flint's plotting to try and take over the world and her getting to help him stop "Evergreen" (Flint) from making holes in the ozone layer.

In the AUy thing I've been writing with Michelle, I just did a wordcount and we've hit 101,815 words, blaming this on the fact almost every one of our posts are over 300. Holy crap. I didn't know we'd written that much.

But I guess what I'm saying is I totally agree with you, RP is a useless distraction unless it inspires you creatively. It should never feel like a time-eating obligation but rather something that pushes ideas forward. At least that's how I see it.

Date: 2010-01-20 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verdant-gt.livejournal.com
Wow that's amazing re: your and Michelle's AU word count. Go you!

I always viewed RP as one giant collaborative fic in a round robin sort of way. That's how I'm wired I think. It's one of the things I like about GYO (but I so had to get used to) that sometimes they'll do an email log and post it rather than an open thread for anyone to join in on. They do that to, and frankly I prefer them because you might be in the mood for just random chatting with a character. But I do like the email logs where you sort of do a round robin tagging and then just post it when it's finished.\

That sucks about your ex and I know that sometimes even an off hand remark from someone that you don't give two shits about their opinion will just hit a nerve and cripple you. At least it does with me.

Date: 2010-01-21 05:27 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] glazedmacguffin
At my other old RP we would do AIM scenes, and their biggest benifit was we could go back and typo/consistancy fix them before posting so I wouldn't repeat the same thing twice.

It's happened to me many times. Each time strikes me down for a few months, and then I slowly crawl my way back out because in the end, all I want to do is have fun with people or draw pictures for myself.

Date: 2010-01-21 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verdant-gt.livejournal.com
I've never done an AIM log before though I know a lot of people do it that way. I kind of like googledocs and/or email because it allows me time to think about what I want the response to be. I usually write more as well. I can be a wordy bint sometimes. :D

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